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Bryan Whalen: AI debt issuance to double to $1 trillion

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Bryan Whalen: AI debt issuance to double to $1 trillion

3 Key Points

  1. What happened

    On the Charles Schwab On Investing episode, portfolio manager Bryan Whalen said net investment-grade corporate bond issuance was about half a trillion dollars in 2025 and is expected to double this year, almost entirely for AI data center capital spending. He said hyperscalers that had over $250 billion of collective free cash flow three years ago are now negative.

  2. Why it matters

    The easy-money phase for the AI buildout appears over, and credit investors have started to reprice the risk as borrowed money funds a growing share of the expansion.

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Context & Analysis

The shift Bryan Whalen describes shows up in company filings. Meta Platforms generated $784 million of second-quarter free cash flow, down from $8.55 billion a year earlier, while its capex reached $30.12 billion and long-term debt rose to $83.66 billion. Amazon reported trailing free cash flow of negative $7.6 billion, and Oracle posted negative $5.4 billion on $28.5 billion of capex after completing a $20 billion at-the-market equity program.

The financing is also increasingly circular in places. Whalen noted that Nvidia is financing over 200 companies that effectively buy its products, which he said might remind some of the technology bubble in the late 90s going into 2000 and 2001. Nvidia has partnered with Apollo, BlackRock, Blackstone, Brookfield, Goldman Sachs, and KKR to mobilize over $500 billion in third-party capital, and its supply obligations reached $279 billion.

CoreWeave has become the market's stress case, with $52 billion of debt, $640 million of second-quarter interest expense, and a 15.9% stock drop over the past week. Another layer of risk is how firm long-term chip supply agreements are; a Fast Money discussion recalled that during COVID, "people wanted to get out of those long term agreements" and said "those long term agreements are not very solid." Whalen said he remains cautious on corporate bonds until a better entry point emerges.

FAQ
Who is warning about AI debt?
Bryan Whalen, a portfolio manager speaking on the Charles Schwab On Investing episode "Who's Financing the AI Boom?".
Why is CoreWeave seen as a stress case?
Bloomberg Businessweek reported CoreWeave carries $52 billion of debt and that interest owed in its latest quarter topped its operating income. Its 2032 notes were trading at 80 cents or below on the dollar with yields at 15%.
What did Nvidia say about criticism of its customer financing?
On its August earnings call, Nvidia said, "We recognize the scale of this support, and we know some will call this circular financing. We see it differently."
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