
What happened
At a Nikkei BP panel with Nissin Foods Holdings, Ebara and Credit Saison DX leaders, Nissin's Teruhiko Iwashita said building a culture where AI use is normal matters more than ROI.
Why it matters
Iwashita said Nissin is not yet at a stage of being asked about ROI, suggesting some large Japanese firms are treating AI spending as a learning phase rather than a returns test.
What to watch
The panel shows peers diverging — Credit Saison replaced its in-house SAISON ASSIST chatbot with SaaS, while Ebara weighs differing overseas laws and business models.
WHO IT HITSThis lands on DX leaders and IT planners at large Japanese companies who must justify AI budgets to finance and management, and who face the same build-versus-buy and local-compliance choices the three panelists described.
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The discussion took place at a panel session at Nikkei BP's "Technology Exhibition to Create the Future: Nikkei Cross Tech NEXT Tokyo 2026," scheduled for September 29-30, 2026. The three speakers run DX at companies with very different profiles, which is why their answers diverge. Nissin Foods Holdings, a domestic food maker, is still changing its operations and business to be AI-based, so Iwashita's stance is to foster a culture rather than defend a return. Credit Saison, a credit card company whose fields move fastest, offers the opposite lesson: it built its SAISON ASSIST chatbot in-house, then folded it into SaaS when AI advanced too quickly to follow on its own. Ebara, whose overseas sales exceed half of the total, has to weigh laws and business forms that differ by country, so its path is local adaptation rather than one global rollout.
Read together, the three cases suggest the ROI question lands differently depending on how exposed a company is to fast-moving technology and to overseas regulation. Nissin's position may reflect a phase where the work is still to make AI the default, while Credit Saison's reversal looks like a case of choosing speed over ownership. Whether treating ROI as secondary pays off is likely to hinge on whether the culture change actually reaches operations, and not just on the tools adopted.
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