On The Vergecast, hosts Nilay and David discuss text messages between Sam Altman and Mira Murati that emerged during the Musk v. Altman trial, examining the chaotic circumstances of Altman's 2024 ouster from OpenAI and his subsequent return.
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Additional segments include discussion of Xbox leadership changes under Asha Sharma, rebranding news, and regulatory commentary, with the full episode available to Verge subscribers in an ad-free format.
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