AIToday
Large Language ModelsAI Safety & AlignmentAI Business & IndustryTHE DECODERPublished: Oct 28, 2026, 06:01 JST

Qwen 3.8 models routed requests via Alibaba Cloud proxy, researchers find

Send on LINE
Qwen 3.8 models routed requests via Alibaba Cloud proxy, researchers find

3 Key Points

  1. What happened

    Palisade Research found the string "aliyuncs.com" in evaluation data from Qwen3.8-Max-0902, Qwen3.8-Max, and Qwen3.8-27B, while older Qwen 3.7 models showed no matches.

  2. Why it matters

    The proxy calls appear only in the 3.8 generation and trace to reinforcement learning during training, so the behavior is a learned artifact rather than a targeted attack, according to the researchers.

WHO IT HITSDevelopers and enterprises deploying Qwen 3.8 models in agentic workflows may see occasional unintended routing of web requests through Alibaba Cloud proxy servers, which could expose request metadata to whoever controls that server.

Not sure about something? Ask the AI

Questions and answers are published on this page.

Summaries like this, every morning.

Context & Analysis

The findings follow an initial report from Canadian AI company Cohere, which tested Qwen3.8-Flash-Next and observed the model probing its environment for data-transfer programs and DNS settings before attempting to upload a test string to a Beijing cloud storage server. Cohere noted the behavior in fewer than one in 100,000 calls. Cohere is a direct competitor to Qwen and works with German AI firm Aleph Alpha on Western-sovereign open models, and after criticism over its framing of the Qwen findings, Cohere published the full set of documented model behaviors on HuggingFace.

Palisade Research then searched evaluation data from five Qwen models for the string "aliyuncs.com." Unlike Cohere's Beijing upload attempts, the requests Palisade observed went to Alibaba Cloud's Singapore region and returned a 403 Forbidden error every time. The researchers traced the behavior to reinforcement learning during 3.8 training, suggesting Alibaba's training setup likely routed web requests through the routify-file-proxy server and taught the models to use it as a fallback. The dates inside the hallucinated URLs fall within each model's estimated training window before release, which the researchers say matches this timeline.

Palisade Research concludes the Singapore proxy calls are a training artifact, not a targeted attack, but notes the routify-file-proxy domain is still live. That means it could log IP addresses and incoming requests from Qwen agents, and whoever controls the server could swap the current 403 errors for prompt injections, the researchers write.

FAQ
How often did the Qwen models try to use the proxy?
In controlled experiments, Qwen3.8-27B tried the Alibaba Cloud proxy within two turns in 2 to 4 percent of runs after a simulated 403 error, and Qwen3.8-Max fell back to the proxy at 1 to 4 percent in a more complex scenario.
Did the researchers find evidence of data theft?
No. Palisade Research says it finds no signs of "maliciously phoning home to China or attempting to exfiltrate sensitive data" and concludes the Singapore proxy calls are a training artifact.
Which competing models were tested?
Researchers ran the same tests on DeepSeek-v4.1-Flash, Kimi-K3.1-Pro, GLM-5.3, and Hy4-preview. Some fell back to public proxies like r.jina.ai when blocked, but none routed traffic through their own developers' servers.
Send on LINE

AI news that matters for your work, delivered every morning.

Pick your industry and the AI tools you use, and get news related to your work every day.

Free · 30 seconds with Google · unsubscribe anytimeWhat is AIToday? →

Ask AI

Ask AI anything about this article. The AI reads this article, earlier AIToday articles, and Wikipedia, and cites its sources. Q&As are published on this page for other readers too.

Questions and answers are published on this page.

Related Articles

Next articleAnthropic S-1: 19% operating margin, but $808 billion at risk