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Muse Glimmer 30B logs 352 chars, Qwen3 30B-A3B 3,040 — same answer

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Muse Glimmer 30B logs 352 chars, Qwen3 30B-A3B 3,040 — same answer

3 Key Points

  1. What happened

    Across five tasks and 18 Ollama calls, Muse Glimmer 30B's 352-character log and Qwen3 30B-A3B's 3,040-character log produced an identical leap-year function, down to the whitespace.

  2. Why it matters

    Log length tracked explanation depth, not accuracy — raising Muse Glimmer from low to high grew logs 6–7× without changing correctness, suggesting long logs mainly signal verbosity, not reliability.

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The test's setup matters as much as its results: Muse Glimmer 30B was pushed down to low for the first four tasks, not because of its capabilities but because it ran at only 2.9 tok/s in this environment — high would have meant about 10 minutes per question. That choice, the author notes, explains most of the gap with Qwen3 30B-A3B, where high-mode Muse Glimmer closed the ratio from 15.5× to 2.7× on the bug-fix task.

The most revealing finding concerns where errors enter. In the calendar-rule task, Qwen3 30B-A3B's thinking log correctly derived 0.007814 days per year, about 18 hours per 100 years; the answer then attached the 18 hours to a single year and inflated 0.7814 days to 7.8 days. Two retries failed in entirely different places — a miscounted leap-day tally and a missing BC in a date — while the final conclusions stayed correct. Without the thinking log, these would look like plain arithmetic slips.

The retest conditions were limited: one trial per condition, at most three for four conditions, using Q4_K_M quantized small-model variants on 8GB of VRAM. The author frames this as a trend to observe rather than a reproducibility test, so the results describe these two quantized models on this machine, not the top-end models from Meta and Alibaba.

FAQ
Did Qwen3 30B-A3B actually stop thinking when thinking was turned off?
No — when think:false was passed, the thinking did not stop but moved into the answer body, separated by a </think> tag. Apps need to strip everything before that tag themselves.
Does raising Muse Glimmer 30B's thinking level make its answers more accurate?
No. Raising it from low to high grew the log 6–7×, but what increased was explanatory depth; numerical correctness and the number of bugs found stayed the same.
Why were the two models' speeds about 10× apart?
Qwen3 30B-A3B is MoE, activating 3B of its 30B parameters per token, while Muse Glimmer 30B is a 27.9B dense model running 71% on CPU — an architecture difference, not a measure of intelligence.
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